Comments on: BoM: 2009 "second hottest year on record" http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bom-2009-second-hottest-year-on-record Just don't tell me the debate is over… Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:00:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Eloi http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&cpage=1#comment-1114 Eloi Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:28:11 +0000 http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705#comment-1114 You need to look at their underlying station data sources as well. I've just done a quick run through of the BoM weather stations for regional Queensland, and the results are as follows (based on names): - Total weather stations: 112 (Regional Queensland, excl. Brisbane / SEQ) - Weather stations at airports: 46 (41%) - Weather stations at post offices: 12 (11%) This doesn't include sundry locations such as water treatment plants, mines, gas fields, etc. You have to wonder just how valid this "second hottest year on record" figure is when over 50% of the data is taken from airports + post office buildings. You need to look at their underlying station data sources as well. I've just done a quick run through of the BoM weather stations for regional Queensland, and the results are as follows (based on names):
- Total weather stations: 112 (Regional Queensland, excl. Brisbane / SEQ)
- Weather stations at airports: 46 (41%)
- Weather stations at post offices: 12 (11%)
This doesn't include sundry locations such as water treatment plants, mines, gas fields, etc.
You have to wonder just how valid this "second hottest year on record" figure is when over 50% of the data is taken from airports + post office buildings.

]]> By: Rationality http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&cpage=1#comment-1099 Rationality Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:19:27 +0000 http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705#comment-1099 Have a good look at the BoM site (http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/change/20100105.shtml). It seems that the Annual Australian Climate Statement 2009 involves an alarmist and populist use of data at the expense of scientific objectivity. In particular either decadel means or annual data are seemingly used to give the most alarmist outcome. For example take the heading "Another drier than average year in the southeast mainland" which is followed by a chart showing that the decadel mean for 2000-2009 was the second wettest on record. Someone who has the skills and time could surely have a lot of fun with the "Climate Statement". Have a good look at the BoM site (http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/change/20100105.shtml).

It seems that the Annual Australian Climate Statement 2009 involves an alarmist and populist use of data at the expense of scientific objectivity. In particular either decadel means or annual data are seemingly used to give the most alarmist outcome. For example take the heading "Another drier than average year in the southeast mainland" which is followed by a chart showing that the decadel mean for 2000-2009 was the second wettest on record.

Someone who has the skills and time could surely have a lot of fun with the "Climate Statement".

]]> By: Government – Dumb and dumber « TWAWKI http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&cpage=1#comment-1098 Government – Dumb and dumber « TWAWKI Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:07:00 +0000 http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705#comment-1098 [...] nature of the political press, Who would you trust?, Hot weather headlines, cold weather obituaries, Arctic blast to deepen, Garret trapped in a paper [...] [...] nature of the political press, Who would you trust?, Hot weather headlines, cold weather obituaries, Arctic blast to deepen, Garret trapped in a paper [...]

]]> By: Salivator http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&cpage=1#comment-1097 Salivator Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:54:53 +0000 http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705#comment-1097 There is a possibility that data managers at BOM were under at least moral pressure to come up with a conclusion to their data that emphasises the doom scenario. This does not require actual distortion or misrepresentation of the data. It just requires scrutinising facts until a suitable fact arises. My analysis of the BOM website data suggests that even the BOM data confirms that Australia's temperature (mean) had two peaks, in 1998 and 2005. Measured against the 2005 peak, we've had cooler weather each year since. Although the BOM data appears to show that our current continental temperature is higher than the 56 year average, the temperature has been fairly steady since about 2001. It appears likely that the sharper rise in Victoria/Tasmania band of the country would have affected the national average recently. Other parts of the continent appear to have had slight declines in temperature. Particularly the far north of the continent has very steady temperature. And finally, the rate of increase in the continental temperature is also slowing. The biggest surge of temperature increase occurred from the 1970s to the 1980s. The Noughties temperature increase has been the second lowest. Ahhh those numbers. (I am happy to supply these numbers in chart form.) There is a possibility that data managers at BOM were under at least moral pressure to come up with a conclusion to their data that emphasises the doom scenario. This does not require actual distortion or misrepresentation of the data. It just requires scrutinising facts until a suitable fact arises. My analysis of the BOM website data suggests that even the BOM data confirms that Australia's temperature (mean) had two peaks, in 1998 and 2005. Measured against the 2005 peak, we've had cooler weather each year since. Although the BOM data appears to show that our current continental temperature is higher than the 56 year average, the temperature has been fairly steady since about 2001. It appears likely that the sharper rise in Victoria/Tasmania band of the country would have affected the national average recently. Other parts of the continent appear to have had slight declines in temperature. Particularly the far north of the continent has very steady temperature. And finally, the rate of increase in the continental temperature is also slowing. The biggest surge of temperature increase occurred from the 1970s to the 1980s. The Noughties temperature increase has been the second lowest. Ahhh those numbers. (I am happy to supply these numbers in chart form.)

]]> By: Eloi http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&cpage=1#comment-1085 Eloi Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:58:52 +0000 http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705#comment-1085 If our hapless minister for the environment had a brain, he'd check the facts first. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/index.php?report=global&year=2008&month=ann For the benefit of the numerically challenged minister - 2008 was colder than 2007, which was equal to 2006 which was colder than 2005. I think in most people's mind, this would be called a "decline". So much for "rigorous scientific findings". The worrying thing is that morons like this make 'decisions' that affect the lives of the rest of us ... If our hapless minister for the environment had a brain, he'd check the facts first.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/index.php?report=global&year=2008&month=ann
For the benefit of the numerically challenged minister - 2008 was colder than 2007, which was equal to 2006 which was colder than 2005. I think in most people's mind, this would be called a "decline". So much for "rigorous scientific findings".
The worrying thing is that morons like this make 'decisions' that affect the lives of the rest of us ...

]]> By: astonerii http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&cpage=1#comment-1083 astonerii Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:12:13 +0000 http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705#comment-1083 It is going to be very hard to hold any credibility for the media in promoting these things. People have woken up and seen the truth, lies will no longer rile them into a frenzy looking for father government to save them from a phantom menace. It is going to be very hard to hold any credibility for the media in promoting these things. People have woken up and seen the truth, lies will no longer rile them into a frenzy looking for father government to save them from a phantom menace.

]]> By: Black Duck http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705&cpage=1#comment-1078 Black Duck Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:07:47 +0000 http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2705#comment-1078 The Jones are everywhere. The "climatologist" responsible for this is David Jones. He may have learnt his trade from the great Phil Jones if some of the "adjustments" and homogenisation of the Darwin records are anything to go by! The Jones are everywhere. The "climatologist" responsible for this is David Jones. He may have learnt his trade from the great Phil Jones if some of the "adjustments" and homogenisation of the Darwin records are anything to go by!

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