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	<title>Comments on: Climate scientists bleating over &quot;attacks from sceptics&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Bush bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=3383&#038;cpage=1#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Stephen Schneider using a program developed by Al Gore&#039;s chief scientific adviser Dr James Hansen
was very vocal in the mid 1970s in a mini series  &#039;A new Ice Age cometh&#039;. (Available on U Tube still).

What is feared by him and others is that they will be seen as gaining money under false pretenses. 
Like some Dr&#039;s lost public faith, so will some scientists and definately the UN IPCC.  Did you know that
Goldman Sach&#039;s whose former Australian director, Malcolm Turnbull,  went to London in October 2009 and then came back threatening his party that anyone who didn&#039;t vote with him to support ETS taxes, etc., would be unwelcolme? Goldman Sachs, Patchauri and maybe Turnbull have invested in clean energy and CCT investments. Did you know TERI Europe &amp; India have been receiving funds for clean energy schemes. And India has invested heavily like the EU &amp; UK in CCT&#039;s.  The BBC pension fund is invested in CCTs.
Did you know that the value of Carbon Trading Credits have plunged.  No Cap &amp; Trade schemes no reason to buy CCT&#039;s. Of course they will have eggs on their faces, and are hiding the fact that they were way off this planet with the alarmist reports and the dodgy manipulated data and UEA Phil Jones, saying
Oh, those nasty emails to the House of Commons committee.  Did they also mention he was glad
why the late John Daly passed away and said so.

The CSIRO with held their report, but later in February admitted that &#039;droughts in Australia are not caused by climate change as was quoted in the UN IPCC report.  Australia has the highest per capita
of carbon emissions in the world so sayeth the UN IPCC.

And CO2 doesn&#039;t drive climate change.  Sure it is a miniscule part of Greenhouse gases.  95% is water vapor and depending on the season, keeps this planet warmer while around and cooler during the day.

So if CO2 doesn&#039;t cause or drive climate change irrespective if there is an increase through human activity, regional not effecting the whole planet at one time, that a big volcanic eruption could, why tax it??.
It will drive up prices for transport, home or domestic electricity and gas supplies, your car and insurances.  They even wanted to tax farmers for beef ($11 per head) and sheep ($7) for methane emissions.  OK no meat folks, unless you keep it yourself in the back garden. 

California have found their electricity prices have gone up 5% as their main grid is supporting solar and wind generated electricity that can&#039;t maintain it on its own.  Electric cars are not CO2 free, in fact they demand more electricity per km, therefore responsible for the equivalent of more CO2 production.

Oh what a strange planet we live in.  Just for global governance to make the rich richer and the poor (that&#039;s you and me! Not some poor peasant in some god forgiven undemocratic corrupt country!) 

They should all be brought to trial.  Al Gore first up.  Pachauri, Mann, Hansen and Schneider and Tim
Flannery and have to pay compensation for all the people they have nearly driven to suicide because of their alarmist predictions!  So sayeth one Angry bush bunny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Stephen Schneider using a program developed by Al Gore's chief scientific adviser Dr James Hansen<br />
was very vocal in the mid 1970s in a mini series  'A new Ice Age cometh'. (Available on U Tube still).</p>
<p>What is feared by him and others is that they will be seen as gaining money under false pretenses.<br />
Like some Dr's lost public faith, so will some scientists and definately the UN IPCC.  Did you know that<br />
Goldman Sach's whose former Australian director, Malcolm Turnbull,  went to London in October 2009 and then came back threatening his party that anyone who didn't vote with him to support ETS taxes, etc., would be unwelcolme? Goldman Sachs, Patchauri and maybe Turnbull have invested in clean energy and CCT investments. Did you know TERI Europe &amp; India have been receiving funds for clean energy schemes. And India has invested heavily like the EU &amp; UK in CCT's.  The BBC pension fund is invested in CCTs.<br />
Did you know that the value of Carbon Trading Credits have plunged.  No Cap &amp; Trade schemes no reason to buy CCT's. Of course they will have eggs on their faces, and are hiding the fact that they were way off this planet with the alarmist reports and the dodgy manipulated data and UEA Phil Jones, saying<br />
Oh, those nasty emails to the House of Commons committee.  Did they also mention he was glad<br />
why the late John Daly passed away and said so.</p>
<p>The CSIRO with held their report, but later in February admitted that 'droughts in Australia are not caused by climate change as was quoted in the UN IPCC report.  Australia has the highest per capita<br />
of carbon emissions in the world so sayeth the UN IPCC.</p>
<p>And CO2 doesn't drive climate change.  Sure it is a miniscule part of Greenhouse gases.  95% is water vapor and depending on the season, keeps this planet warmer while around and cooler during the day.</p>
<p>So if CO2 doesn't cause or drive climate change irrespective if there is an increase through human activity, regional not effecting the whole planet at one time, that a big volcanic eruption could, why tax it??.<br />
It will drive up prices for transport, home or domestic electricity and gas supplies, your car and insurances.  They even wanted to tax farmers for beef ($11 per head) and sheep ($7) for methane emissions.  OK no meat folks, unless you keep it yourself in the back garden. </p>
<p>California have found their electricity prices have gone up 5% as their main grid is supporting solar and wind generated electricity that can't maintain it on its own.  Electric cars are not CO2 free, in fact they demand more electricity per km, therefore responsible for the equivalent of more CO2 production.</p>
<p>Oh what a strange planet we live in.  Just for global governance to make the rich richer and the poor (that's you and me! Not some poor peasant in some god forgiven undemocratic corrupt country!) </p>
<p>They should all be brought to trial.  Al Gore first up.  Pachauri, Mann, Hansen and Schneider and Tim<br />
Flannery and have to pay compensation for all the people they have nearly driven to suicide because of their alarmist predictions!  So sayeth one Angry bush bunny.</p>
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		<title>By: Eloi</title>
		<link>http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=3383&#038;cpage=1#comment-1583</link>
		<dc:creator>Eloi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..and how can this grubby organisation make any pretence at &quot;scientific integrity&quot; when they are bought and paid for by k.d. wong&#039;s Ministry of Truth?
See the CSIRO slush fund here:
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/about/grants.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..and how can this grubby organisation make any pretence at "scientific integrity" when they are bought and paid for by k.d. wong's Ministry of Truth?<br />
See the CSIRO slush fund here:<br />
<a href="http://www.climatechange.gov.au/about/grants.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatechange.gov.au/about/grants.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: The new green and &#8216;culture jamming&#8217; &#171; TWAWKI</title>
		<link>http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=3383&#038;cpage=1#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>The new green and &#8216;culture jamming&#8217; &#171; TWAWKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] point of view is not allowed, Christine Milne says no to free speech, Air vent censored in China, CSIRO goes into fortress mentality as the scourge of skeptics attach, Climate wars continue, ABC science presented famished for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] point of view is not allowed, Christine Milne says no to free speech, Air vent censored in China, CSIRO goes into fortress mentality as the scourge of skeptics attach, Climate wars continue, ABC science presented famished for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Barnham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Barnham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding. The way this whole saga is unfolding is better than reality television.

I guess that the scientific community has grown so accustomed to holding public esteem and trust, that their profession is generally regarded as one of the noblest and most valued of human endeavours, that to see a growing section of the lay community begin to question their competency and integrity must come as quite a shock to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding. The way this whole saga is unfolding is better than reality television.</p>
<p>I guess that the scientific community has grown so accustomed to holding public esteem and trust, that their profession is generally regarded as one of the noblest and most valued of human endeavours, that to see a growing section of the lay community begin to question their competency and integrity must come as quite a shock to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you will find that it is Climate Change scientists as opposed to climate scientists are the one&#039;s screaming. They believe in &quot;climate change&quot; as opposed to &quot;climate&quot;. Climate change is an ideology, climate is a science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you will find that it is Climate Change scientists as opposed to climate scientists are the one's screaming. They believe in "climate change" as opposed to "climate". Climate change is an ideology, climate is a science.</p>
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		<title>By: Eloi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eloi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh? &quot;Appearing to gag comment&quot;??
Like the way the CSIRO &quot;appeared&quot; to gag Clive Spash?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/climate-expert-clive-spash-heavied-by-csiro-management/story-e6frg8gf-1225793717744

..or Michael Raupach, John Church, Pep Canadell and James Risbey?
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/csiro-climate-experts-defiant/1486721.aspx

..or others?
http://www.sciencewa.net.au/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=878:gag-lifted-on-csiro-scientists&amp;catid=198:News&amp;Itemid=200074

Imagine this grubby organisation worrying about &quot;scientific integrity&quot;.
Where&#039;s my bucket?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? "Appearing to gag comment"??<br />
Like the way the CSIRO "appeared" to gag Clive Spash?<br />
<a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/climate-expert-clive-spash-heavied-by-csiro-management/story-e6frg8gf-1225793717744" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/climate-expert-clive-spash-heavied-by-csiro-management/story-e6frg8gf-1225793717744</a></p>
<p>..or Michael Raupach, John Church, Pep Canadell and James Risbey?<br />
<a href="http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/csiro-climate-experts-defiant/1486721.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/csiro-climate-experts-defiant/1486721.aspx</a></p>
<p>..or others?<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencewa.net.au/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=878:gag-lifted-on-csiro-scientists&amp;catid=198:News&amp;Itemid=200074" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencewa.net.au/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=878:gag-lifted-on-csiro-scientists&amp;catid=198:News&amp;Itemid=200074</a></p>
<p>Imagine this grubby organisation worrying about "scientific integrity".<br />
Where's my bucket?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bradford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He left out the word &quot;well-funded&quot; before &quot;orchestrated campaign&quot;. :)

Once more, the triple psychological pattern of denial, projection, and victimhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He left out the word "well-funded" before "orchestrated campaign". <img src='http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Once more, the triple psychological pattern of denial, projection, and victimhood.</p>
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